KP: It’s interesting watching parts in which vert skating is followed by curbs.
KP: Are you copying the packaging too?
C: Yes, down to every detail.
KP: What does that entail?
C: Remaking the box, printing, labeling, faux aging – sculpture-making basically.
KP: So these are completely hand made by you?
C: Yeah, everything from Dear is.
KP: Do you have that kind of involvement with board shapes? I wondered about how you get them to look like they do in the videos?
C: Yes I do. That’s actually a longer process of sampling and going back and forth with the woodshop. The first board I produced required quite a learning curve.
KP: So are they made from memory, or looking at videos, or from surviving boards?
C: A combination of all 3. The same as the shirts or anything I make. Sometimes you get lucky and Ron Chatman has one in his parents’ garage. But most of the time it requires a lot more research.
KP: How did you find out that he had one?
C: He’s a friend and someone I skate with regularly. So, like a friend, I bug him about stuff.
KP: Where are you getting the unseen footage from that you posted on Insta?
C: That came from a project that Mackenzie Eisenhower from Transworld and I worked on a few years ago. The Venture Video. His Instagram is @deadhippie.
Basically we tracked down a bunch of the footage. Jacob Rosenberg had most of it on a hard drive since he was a big part of that abandon project.
»Skaters seem to be hyper consumed with documenting and archiving. A lot of people can’t even skate without being filmed or documented in someway. It’s obsessive«
KP: And was he stoked for you to post it?
C: Yeah. Though I’m sure he would be more stoked to release something he’s worked on in the last 20 years. [Laughs] maybe a latent stoke?
KP: In your experience, are skaters good at archiving things?
C: Skaters aren’t, collectors are. Some people are both, but not many. Actually, I guess more are now. Skaters seem to be hyper consumed with documenting and archiving. A lot of people can’t even skate without being filmed or documenting in someway. It’s obsessive.
KP: But I think that we understand, without thinking about it too much, that board art is ephemeral.
C: Yeah (as it should be).
KP: Why do you say that?
C: Because I think the skating comes first. So when you’re talking about board graphics, you’re talking about a picture on the bottom of an implement created for experience and fun.
KP: Do fans ever send you bits of ephemera?
C: Yes they do. It is rad. Mostly stickers and what not. Paul from Skaters Advocate in Michigan sent me an original Liberty catalogue flyer which I am reproducing and including in the orders.
KP: Do you ever get boards?
C: Sometimes, but I’m not a collector, so I don’t know what to do with them.
KP: Do you think that the Liberty catalogue will resonate with younger skaters?
C: Jeeze, I really have no idea. Vert is back, so maybe. I hope they can find something in there that they could relate to. We found Liberty to be very accessible as kids. Best ads, great graphics, rad underdog team…
KP: Have you ever been notified of mistakes you’ve made when trying to recreate something?
C: No, usually the opposite. Sometimes I have a more accurate memory than whoever I am working or reminiscing with on a certain project. But it varies from person to person.
KP: And finally, do you want to develop Dear?
C: I don’t, Dear, is as developed as it is going to get.