6. Darren Harper/Stevie Williams
Not exactly from a skate video but still had to be included. This extract from Darren Harper’s Jenkem interview is the closest thing we have to the full story:
“So what happened at Manny Mania?
We had a clash, for the record a lot of people think Stevie kicked me off [DGK], he didn’t kick me off. We were already too cool for that, we had history. He gave me an ultimatum basically like, “Hey you need to either choose this or choose that.” It was over a shoe deal I had, and I will NOT say their name cause I canʼt stand them. But..
Itʼs Yums right?
I canʼt…Iʼm not even agreeing with you. I canʼt stand them cats. Stevie called up and was like, “Yo that shit is wack”, which I know. I knew that but I had to do it on my own because the thing is people told me Travisʼ Famous Stars and Straps was wack. Me being who I am, I was like there are no limits with Darren Harper! I can take the worst situation and make it into the best situation. At the end of the day, I wasn’t going to let anybody close me out like that, when this thing is more about feeding my family. Basically he calls and heʼs like, “You know you need to make a choice,” and Iʼm like damn, just like that? He didn’t give me no other option like, “Hey I got something else for you.” He just called me ﬂat out like, “Yeah. You need to make a choice,” and I didn’t like that. He basically said some things on the phone that didn’t sit well with me either, being a dude from the streets.
One of the things he said was like, “Who are you? You ain’t got no career, like nigga, I got a career already,” and Iʼm like, “Woah, hold up brother, you gotta understand you talking to me!” Then some of the things we went through when we were on the team kinda set in. For example, I was down in Atlanta one time and we got in a ﬁst ﬁght. Me and a friend of mine from D.C., we brawled with like twenty dudes in a party! Darn near the whole DGK team just stood there! I stand for loyalty, if Iʼm riding with you, we gonna rock out!
Exactly and he stands there with that big ole chain, DGK, supposed to be “Dirty Ghetto Kids” and all this ole “keeping it gangsta and all that” but you got your boy on your team ﬁghting and they didn’t do nothing, they just stood there. They watched. I saw the punches get thrown and I had a chain on that was worth six or seven grand too, I took it off, put it around Lennyʼs neck and I went in to help my partner. And thatʼs what it was, and they just stood there.
I kinda lost respect for them a little then, but I still kept it business. You come out better when you stick together, I could have had twenty people stomping on my head, but Iʼm strong ya know and I know how to ﬁght, that’s what I do. It’s in the past, we just had our differences and when he said something crazy on the phone, I was just like, “Okay, well Iʼma see you when I see you.” The punch or whatever, I still call it like a “pimp slap”, cause I didn’t put no weight into it. I just felt like I had to let him know, “Yo you need to calm down with the mouth bro.”
And he just has this look on his face like, “Yeah, whatever, whatever.” But It makes more sense now.
Yeah, people kind of judged it at ﬁrst but it’s like, I went up to him and tapped him on the shoulder professionally. I said, “Yo, what’s up? Lets holla, lets rap.” He had a friend there and it just spiraled out of control a little bit. Then the crowd came around and made it bigger then what it was too. There was all these people around and that gives me more energy. Iʼm like alright, you all aren’t about to overpower me. I donʼt give a shit how many people you with, if Iʼm going in, Iʼm going in. Then I see his partner getting all excited, so I had to let my peace be known. I donʼt take none of his credit, heʼs a legend, he’s a power house. But we also came up near the same time and Iʼve been knowing him, people donʼt understand that. You know, sometimes people see stuff and it isn’t what they think it is.
So you’re more gangster than Stevie?
Oh man, of course man. We ain’t going to say gangsta, just going to say Iʼm a stand up cat.”